Smart Host Problem - 8 hours and still going crazy.

JL · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

Using Exchage 2003, with static IP on DSL behind Linksys router with port 25
forwarded to that machine (Win2003 fully patched withExchange 2003).

I am trying to use the Smart Host to send mail thru either Verio or
Bellsouth.Net.

I use Verio for web hosting and have a mailserver name: xxx.com, username:
uname, and a password: pwd (All names/password are for example only). Verio
uses the "Pop Before SMTP" protocol so they are rejecting my connection with
"The remote SMTP service rejected AUTH negotiation". Verio tech support
said that I have to set it up so that it checks the Pop server first, this
opens the SMTP port. They said that other people were doing it successfully
but that they had no idea how, or they would not tell me.

I use BellSouth for DSL connection with a static ip and I also tried their
mail server with the same result. I am assuming that they have the same
"Pop Before SMTP" protocol in place.

Why do I want it set up this way. I have another domain: xxx.net which is
pointed to my static ip. I set Exchange up last week and it was
successfully sending and receiving. I then got some rejections from RR
(Road Runner) and AOL that my account was blocked with the following mesage
(I blocked out the ip address with ??.??.??.?? and disguised the domain):

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------
The message cannot be delivered due to a configuration error on the server.
Please contact your Administrator.
http://www.mail-abuse.org/dul>

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------

When I went to www.mail-abuse.org/dul it said that Bellsouth listed a entire
range of ip addresses as dial-up and that many isp's were rejecting e-mail
from servers on dial-up addresses. Of course I have a static dsl, not
dialup, but they will not address the issue. They said to relay the mail
thru a smart host at my isp. That is why I am trying to use either the SMTP
server at my web site at Verio, or the SMTP server at my ISP, Bellsouth.Net.

Can anyone suggest how to get around the problem.

Thanks
Jeryl

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Jeff Stockamp · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

It's not ideal, but since you're using a single static IP address, you could
have any host behind the Linksys make a POP request to the ISP's server and
it should then allow the Exchange Server to send smtp mail through it. To
your ISP, the POP and SMTP traffic all appear to be coming from the same IP
address.

- Jeff

"JL" wrote in message@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Using Exchage 2003, with static IP on DSL behind Linksys router with port
25
> forwarded to that machine (Win2003 fully patched withExchange 2003).
>
> I am trying to use the Smart Host to send mail thru either Verio or
> Bellsouth.Net.
>
> I use Verio for web hosting and have a mailserver name: xxx.com, username:
> uname, and a password: pwd (All names/password are for example only).
Verio
> uses the "Pop Before SMTP" protocol so they are rejecting my connection
with
> "The remote SMTP service rejected AUTH negotiation". Verio tech support
> said that I have to set it up so that it checks the Pop server first, this
> opens the SMTP port. They said that other people were doing it
successfully
> but that they had no idea how, or they would not tell me.
>
> I use BellSouth for DSL connection with a static ip and I also tried their
> mail server with the same result. I am assuming that they have the same
> "Pop Before SMTP" protocol in place.
>
> Why do I want it set up this way. I have another domain: xxx.net which is
> pointed to my static ip. I set Exchange up last week and it was
> successfully sending and receiving. I then got some rejections from RR
> (Road Runner) and AOL that my account was blocked with the following
mesage
> (I blocked out the ip address with ??.??.??.?? and disguised the domain):
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> ---------------------------------------------------
> The message cannot be delivered due to a configuration error on the
server.
> Please contact your Administrator.
> > http://www.mail-abuse.org/dul>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> When I went to www.mail-abuse.org/dul it said that Bellsouth listed a
entire
> range of ip addresses as dial-up and that many isp's were rejecting e-mail
> from servers on dial-up addresses. Of course I have a static dsl, not
> dialup, but they will not address the issue. They said to relay the mail
> thru a smart host at my isp. That is why I am trying to use either the
SMTP
> server at my web site at Verio, or the SMTP server at my ISP,
Bellsouth.Net.
>
> Can anyone suggest how to get around the problem.
>
> Thanks
> Jeryl
>
>

JL · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

Thanks for the reply Jeff. I can install Outlook on the Exchange box, but
how can I have Exchange get the Outlook client to make a POP request to open
the port. I could also write a small VB program to request from the POP
port but need some way to have Exchange run this program just prior to
uploading mail to the SMTP port. This is the part I do not know how to do.

Jeryl

"Jeff Stockamp" wrote in message@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> It's not ideal, but since you're using a single static IP address, you
could
> have any host behind the Linksys make a POP request to the ISP's server
and
> it should then allow the Exchange Server to send smtp mail through it. To
> your ISP, the POP and SMTP traffic all appear to be coming from the same
IP
> address.
>
> - Jeff
>
> "JL" wrote in message
> @TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Using Exchage 2003, with static IP on DSL behind Linksys router with
port
> 25
> > forwarded to that machine (Win2003 fully patched withExchange 2003).
> >
> > I am trying to use the Smart Host to send mail thru either Verio or
> > Bellsouth.Net.
> >
> > I use Verio for web hosting and have a mailserver name: xxx.com,
username:
> > uname, and a password: pwd (All names/password are for example only).
> Verio
> > uses the "Pop Before SMTP" protocol so they are rejecting my connection
> with
> > "The remote SMTP service rejected AUTH negotiation". Verio tech support
> > said that I have to set it up so that it checks the Pop server first,
this
> > opens the SMTP port. They said that other people were doing it
> successfully
> > but that they had no idea how, or they would not tell me.
> >
> > I use BellSouth for DSL connection with a static ip and I also tried
their
> > mail server with the same result. I am assuming that they have the same
> > "Pop Before SMTP" protocol in place.
> >
> > Why do I want it set up this way. I have another domain: xxx.net which
is
> > pointed to my static ip. I set Exchange up last week and it was
> > successfully sending and receiving. I then got some rejections from RR
> > (Road Runner) and AOL that my account was blocked with the following
> mesage
> > (I blocked out the ip address with ??.??.??.?? and disguised the
domain):
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> > The message cannot be delivered due to a configuration error on the
> server.
> > Please contact your Administrator.
> > > > http://www.mail-abuse.org/dul>
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> >
> > When I went to www.mail-abuse.org/dul it said that Bellsouth listed a
> entire
> > range of ip addresses as dial-up and that many isp's were rejecting
e-mail
> > from servers on dial-up addresses. Of course I have a static dsl, not
> > dialup, but they will not address the issue. They said to relay the
mail
> > thru a smart host at my isp. That is why I am trying to use either the
> SMTP
> > server at my web site at Verio, or the SMTP server at my ISP,
> Bellsouth.Net.
> >
> > Can anyone suggest how to get around the problem.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Jeryl
> >
> >
>
>

Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 191

Exchange can't check for POP first - it's a mail server, not a mail client.
Call BellSouth and see if they have an SMTP server you can use that doesn't
require this, or require SMTP authentication.

JL wrote:
> Using Exchage 2003, with static IP on DSL behind Linksys router with
> port 25 forwarded to that machine (Win2003 fully patched withExchange
> 2003).
>
> I am trying to use the Smart Host to send mail thru either Verio or
> Bellsouth.Net.
>
> I use Verio for web hosting and have a mailserver name: xxx.com,
> username: uname, and a password: pwd (All names/password are for
> example only). Verio uses the "Pop Before SMTP" protocol so they are
> rejecting my connection with "The remote SMTP service rejected AUTH
> negotiation". Verio tech support said that I have to set it up so
> that it checks the Pop server first, this opens the SMTP port. They
> said that other people were doing it successfully but that they had
> no idea how, or they would not tell me.
>
> I use BellSouth for DSL connection with a static ip and I also tried
> their mail server with the same result. I am assuming that they have
> the same "Pop Before SMTP" protocol in place.
>
> Why do I want it set up this way. I have another domain: xxx.net
> which is pointed to my static ip. I set Exchange up last week and it
> was successfully sending and receiving. I then got some rejections
> from RR (Road Runner) and AOL that my account was blocked with the
> following mesage (I blocked out the ip address with ??.??.??.?? and
> disguised the domain):
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> ---------------------------------------------------
> The message cannot be delivered due to a configuration error on the
> server. Please contact your Administrator.
> > http://www.mail-abuse.org/dul>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> When I went to www.mail-abuse.org/dul it said that Bellsouth listed a
> entire range of ip addresses as dial-up and that many isp's were
> rejecting e-mail from servers on dial-up addresses. Of course I have
> a static dsl, not dialup, but they will not address the issue. They
> said to relay the mail thru a smart host at my isp. That is why I am
> trying to use either the SMTP server at my web site at Verio, or the
> SMTP server at my ISP, Bellsouth.Net.
>
> Can anyone suggest how to get around the problem.
>
> Thanks
> Jeryl

JL · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

I spoke with Bellsouth and have escalated it two levels and all they can
tell me is to call Microsoft. If they have such a server I have not been
able to get it out of them.

Could I be configuring the Smarthost incorrectly? I will post the
information later this evening.

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
wrote in message
news:#$6OHxywDHA.1740@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Exchange can't check for POP first - it's a mail server, not a mail
client.
> Call BellSouth and see if they have an SMTP server you can use that
doesn't
> require this, or require SMTP authentication.
>
> JL wrote:
> > Using Exchage 2003, with static IP on DSL behind Linksys router with
> > port 25 forwarded to that machine (Win2003 fully patched withExchange
> > 2003).
> >
> > I am trying to use the Smart Host to send mail thru either Verio or
> > Bellsouth.Net.
> >
> > I use Verio for web hosting and have a mailserver name: xxx.com,
> > username: uname, and a password: pwd (All names/password are for
> > example only). Verio uses the "Pop Before SMTP" protocol so they are
> > rejecting my connection with "The remote SMTP service rejected AUTH
> > negotiation". Verio tech support said that I have to set it up so
> > that it checks the Pop server first, this opens the SMTP port. They
> > said that other people were doing it successfully but that they had
> > no idea how, or they would not tell me.
> >
> > I use BellSouth for DSL connection with a static ip and I also tried
> > their mail server with the same result. I am assuming that they have
> > the same "Pop Before SMTP" protocol in place.
> >
> > Why do I want it set up this way. I have another domain: xxx.net
> > which is pointed to my static ip. I set Exchange up last week and it
> > was successfully sending and receiving. I then got some rejections
> > from RR (Road Runner) and AOL that my account was blocked with the
> > following mesage (I blocked out the ip address with ??.??.??.?? and
> > disguised the domain):
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> > The message cannot be delivered due to a configuration error on the
> > server. Please contact your Administrator.
> > > > http://www.mail-abuse.org/dul>
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> >
> > When I went to www.mail-abuse.org/dul it said that Bellsouth listed a
> > entire range of ip addresses as dial-up and that many isp's were
> > rejecting e-mail from servers on dial-up addresses. Of course I have
> > a static dsl, not dialup, but they will not address the issue. They
> > said to relay the mail thru a smart host at my isp. That is why I am
> > trying to use either the SMTP server at my web site at Verio, or the
> > SMTP server at my ISP, Bellsouth.Net.
> >
> > Can anyone suggest how to get around the problem.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Jeryl
>
>

Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 191

What did you ask them? The appropriate questions as I see them:

1. What is the FQDN of the SMTP server I can use?
2. Does it require that I authenticate to it in order to use it for outbound
mail?

If the answer to #2 is yes, you can't use it. And yes, you should post your
settings here.

JL wrote:
> I spoke with Bellsouth and have escalated it two levels and all they
> can tell me is to call Microsoft. If they have such a server I have
> not been able to get it out of them.
>
> Could I be configuring the Smarthost incorrectly? I will post the
> information later this evening.
>
>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> wrote in
> message news:#$6OHxywDHA.1740@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Exchange can't check for POP first - it's a mail server, not a mail
>> client. Call BellSouth and see if they have an SMTP server you can
>> use that doesn't require this, or require SMTP authentication.
>>
>> JL wrote:
>>> Using Exchage 2003, with static IP on DSL behind Linksys router with
>>> port 25 forwarded to that machine (Win2003 fully patched
>>> withExchange 2003).
>>>
>>> I am trying to use the Smart Host to send mail thru either Verio or
>>> Bellsouth.Net.
>>>
>>> I use Verio for web hosting and have a mailserver name: xxx.com,
>>> username: uname, and a password: pwd (All names/password are for
>>> example only). Verio uses the "Pop Before SMTP" protocol so they
>>> are rejecting my connection with "The remote SMTP service rejected
>>> AUTH negotiation". Verio tech support said that I have to set it
>>> up so that it checks the Pop server first, this opens the SMTP
>>> port. They said that other people were doing it successfully but
>>> that they had no idea how, or they would not tell me.
>>>
>>> I use BellSouth for DSL connection with a static ip and I also tried
>>> their mail server with the same result. I am assuming that they
>>> have the same "Pop Before SMTP" protocol in place.
>>>
>>> Why do I want it set up this way. I have another domain: xxx.net
>>> which is pointed to my static ip. I set Exchange up last week and
>>> it was successfully sending and receiving. I then got some
>>> rejections from RR (Road Runner) and AOL that my account was
>>> blocked with the following mesage (I blocked out the ip address
>>> with ??.??.??.?? and disguised the domain):
>>>
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
>> --
>>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>> The message cannot be delivered due to a configuration error on the
>>> server. Please contact your Administrator.
>>> >>> http://www.mail-abuse.org/dul>
>>>
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
>> --
>>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> When I went to www.mail-abuse.org/dul it said that Bellsouth listed
>>> a entire range of ip addresses as dial-up and that many isp's were
>>> rejecting e-mail from servers on dial-up addresses. Of course I
>>> have a static dsl, not dialup, but they will not address the issue.
>>> They said to relay the mail thru a smart host at my isp. That is
>>> why I am trying to use either the SMTP server at my web site at
>>> Verio, or the SMTP server at my ISP, Bellsouth.Net.
>>>
>>> Can anyone suggest how to get around the problem.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Jeryl

JL · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

Again, I thank you for your help. I set up an Internet Mail SMTP Connector
and "checked forward all mail through this connector to the following smart
hosts". I put mail.bellsouth.net as the smart host. On the Advanced tabl
under Outbound Security I tried with the following:

1 - Anonymous Access

2 - Basic Authentication
A - no username and no password
B - all permutations of my username and the correct password

Neither Option 1, 2A, or 2B worked.

Jeryl

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
wrote in message%2324zwDHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> What did you ask them? The appropriate questions as I see them:
>
> 1. What is the FQDN of the SMTP server I can use?
> 2. Does it require that I authenticate to it in order to use it for
outbound
> mail?
>
> If the answer to #2 is yes, you can't use it. And yes, you should post
your
> settings here.
>
> JL wrote:
> > I spoke with Bellsouth and have escalated it two levels and all they
> > can tell me is to call Microsoft. If they have such a server I have
> > not been able to get it out of them.
> >
> > Could I be configuring the Smarthost incorrectly? I will post the
> > information later this evening.
> >
> >
> > "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> > wrote in
> > message news:#$6OHxywDHA.1740@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> Exchange can't check for POP first - it's a mail server, not a mail
> >> client. Call BellSouth and see if they have an SMTP server you can
> >> use that doesn't require this, or require SMTP authentication.
> >>
> >> JL wrote:
> >>> Using Exchage 2003, with static IP on DSL behind Linksys router with
> >>> port 25 forwarded to that machine (Win2003 fully patched
> >>> withExchange 2003).
> >>>
> >>> I am trying to use the Smart Host to send mail thru either Verio or
> >>> Bellsouth.Net.
> >>>
> >>> I use Verio for web hosting and have a mailserver name: xxx.com,
> >>> username: uname, and a password: pwd (All names/password are for
> >>> example only). Verio uses the "Pop Before SMTP" protocol so they
> >>> are rejecting my connection with "The remote SMTP service rejected
> >>> AUTH negotiation". Verio tech support said that I have to set it
> >>> up so that it checks the Pop server first, this opens the SMTP
> >>> port. They said that other people were doing it successfully but
> >>> that they had no idea how, or they would not tell me.
> >>>
> >>> I use BellSouth for DSL connection with a static ip and I also tried
> >>> their mail server with the same result. I am assuming that they
> >>> have the same "Pop Before SMTP" protocol in place.
> >>>
> >>> Why do I want it set up this way. I have another domain: xxx.net
> >>> which is pointed to my static ip. I set Exchange up last week and
> >>> it was successfully sending and receiving. I then got some
> >>> rejections from RR (Road Runner) and AOL that my account was
> >>> blocked with the following mesage (I blocked out the ip address
> >>> with ??.??.??.?? and disguised the domain):
> >>>
> >>
>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> >> --
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------
> >>> The message cannot be delivered due to a configuration error on the
> >>> server. Please contact your Administrator.
> >>> > >>> http://www.mail-abuse.org/dul>
> >>>
> >>
>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> >> --
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> When I went to www.mail-abuse.org/dul it said that Bellsouth listed
> >>> a entire range of ip addresses as dial-up and that many isp's were
> >>> rejecting e-mail from servers on dial-up addresses. Of course I
> >>> have a static dsl, not dialup, but they will not address the issue.
> >>> They said to relay the mail thru a smart host at my isp. That is
> >>> why I am trying to use either the SMTP server at my web site at
> >>> Verio, or the SMTP server at my ISP, Bellsouth.Net.
> >>>
> >>> Can anyone suggest how to get around the problem.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Jeryl
>
>

Jeff Stockamp · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

I'm not familiar with how bellsouth has their SMTP servers configured, but I
would think you could jsut write a small script to check a POP3 mailbox
every 5 minutes or so and that should keep your IP in the allowed list. I
can't gurantee this would work, but I'd give it a try.

- Jeff

"JL" wrote in message
news:%23R21DawwDHA.1760@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for the reply Jeff. I can install Outlook on the Exchange box, but
> how can I have Exchange get the Outlook client to make a POP request to
open
> the port. I could also write a small VB program to request from the POP
> port but need some way to have Exchange run this program just prior to
> uploading mail to the SMTP port. This is the part I do not know how to
do.
>
>
> Jeryl
>
>
> "Jeff Stockamp" wrote in message
> @TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > It's not ideal, but since you're using a single static IP address, you
> could
> > have any host behind the Linksys make a POP request to the ISP's server
> and
> > it should then allow the Exchange Server to send smtp mail through it.
To
> > your ISP, the POP and SMTP traffic all appear to be coming from the same
> IP
> > address.
> >
> > - Jeff
> >
> > "JL" wrote in message
> > @TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > Using Exchage 2003, with static IP on DSL behind Linksys router with
> port
> > 25
> > > forwarded to that machine (Win2003 fully patched withExchange 2003).
> > >
> > > I am trying to use the Smart Host to send mail thru either Verio or
> > > Bellsouth.Net.
> > >
> > > I use Verio for web hosting and have a mailserver name: xxx.com,
> username:
> > > uname, and a password: pwd (All names/password are for example only).
> > Verio
> > > uses the "Pop Before SMTP" protocol so they are rejecting my
connection
> > with
> > > "The remote SMTP service rejected AUTH negotiation". Verio tech
support
> > > said that I have to set it up so that it checks the Pop server first,
> this
> > > opens the SMTP port. They said that other people were doing it
> > successfully
> > > but that they had no idea how, or they would not tell me.
> > >
> > > I use BellSouth for DSL connection with a static ip and I also tried
> their
> > > mail server with the same result. I am assuming that they have the
same
> > > "Pop Before SMTP" protocol in place.
> > >
> > > Why do I want it set up this way. I have another domain: xxx.net
which
> is
> > > pointed to my static ip. I set Exchange up last week and it was
> > > successfully sending and receiving. I then got some rejections from
RR
> > > (Road Runner) and AOL that my account was blocked with the following
> > mesage
> > > (I blocked out the ip address with ??.??.??.?? and disguised the
> domain):
> > >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> > > ---------------------------------------------------
> > > The message cannot be delivered due to a configuration error on the
> > server.
> > > Please contact your Administrator.
> > > > > > http://www.mail-abuse.org/dul>
> > >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> > > ---------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > When I went to www.mail-abuse.org/dul it said that Bellsouth listed a
> > entire
> > > range of ip addresses as dial-up and that many isp's were rejecting
> e-mail
> > > from servers on dial-up addresses. Of course I have a static dsl, not
> > > dialup, but they will not address the issue. They said to relay the
> mail
> > > thru a smart host at my isp. That is why I am trying to use either
the
> > SMTP
> > > server at my web site at Verio, or the SMTP server at my ISP,
> > Bellsouth.Net.
> > >
> > > Can anyone suggest how to get around the problem.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Jeryl
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 191

Hmm - which username/password? I wouldn't think you'd have one as it doesn't
sound like you have a POP account with bell south - did you check with their
tech support?

JL wrote:
> Again, I thank you for your help. I set up an Internet Mail SMTP
> Connector and "checked forward all mail through this connector to the
> following smart hosts". I put mail.bellsouth.net as the smart host.
> On the Advanced tabl under Outbound Security I tried with the
> following:
>
> 1 - Anonymous Access
>
> 2 - Basic Authentication
> A - no username and no password
> B - all permutations of my username and the correct password
>
> Neither Option 1, 2A, or 2B worked.
>
> Jeryl
>
>
>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> wrote in
> message %2324zwDHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> What did you ask them? The appropriate questions as I see them:
>>
>> 1. What is the FQDN of the SMTP server I can use?
>> 2. Does it require that I authenticate to it in order to use it for
>> outbound mail?
>>
>> If the answer to #2 is yes, you can't use it. And yes, you should
>> post your settings here.
>>
>> JL wrote:
>>> I spoke with Bellsouth and have escalated it two levels and all they
>>> can tell me is to call Microsoft. If they have such a server I have
>>> not been able to get it out of them.
>>>
>>> Could I be configuring the Smarthost incorrectly? I will post the
>>> information later this evening.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>> wrote in
>>> message news:#$6OHxywDHA.1740@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>> Exchange can't check for POP first - it's a mail server, not a mail
>>>> client. Call BellSouth and see if they have an SMTP server you can
>>>> use that doesn't require this, or require SMTP authentication.
>>>>
>>>> JL wrote:
>>>>> Using Exchage 2003, with static IP on DSL behind Linksys router
>>>>> with port 25 forwarded to that machine (Win2003 fully patched
>>>>> withExchange 2003).
>>>>>
>>>>> I am trying to use the Smart Host to send mail thru either Verio
>>>>> or Bellsouth.Net.
>>>>>
>>>>> I use Verio for web hosting and have a mailserver name: xxx.com,
>>>>> username: uname, and a password: pwd (All names/password are for
>>>>> example only). Verio uses the "Pop Before SMTP" protocol so they
>>>>> are rejecting my connection with "The remote SMTP service rejected
>>>>> AUTH negotiation". Verio tech support said that I have to set it
>>>>> up so that it checks the Pop server first, this opens the SMTP
>>>>> port. They said that other people were doing it successfully but
>>>>> that they had no idea how, or they would not tell me.
>>>>>
>>>>> I use BellSouth for DSL connection with a static ip and I also
>>>>> tried their mail server with the same result. I am assuming that
>>>>> they have the same "Pop Before SMTP" protocol in place.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do I want it set up this way. I have another domain: xxx.net
>>>>> which is pointed to my static ip. I set Exchange up last week and
>>>>> it was successfully sending and receiving. I then got some
>>>>> rejections from RR (Road Runner) and AOL that my account was
>>>>> blocked with the following mesage (I blocked out the ip address
>>>>> with ??.??.??.?? and disguised the domain):
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
>> -
>>>> --
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>>>> The message cannot be delivered due to a configuration error on
>>>>> the server. Please contact your Administrator.
>>>>> >>>>> see http://www.mail-abuse.org/dul>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
>> -
>>>> --
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> When I went to www.mail-abuse.org/dul it said that Bellsouth
>>>>> listed a entire range of ip addresses as dial-up and that many
>>>>> isp's were rejecting e-mail from servers on dial-up addresses.
>>>>> Of course I have a static dsl, not dialup, but they will not
>>>>> address the issue. They said to relay the mail thru a smart host
>>>>> at my isp. That is why I am trying to use either the SMTP server
>>>>> at my web site at Verio, or the SMTP server at my ISP,
>>>>> Bellsouth.Net.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone suggest how to get around the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Jeryl

JL · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

I used the only username/password I have. It is the same combination that I
use in Outlook and the same ones that I use in the Linksys router.

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
wrote in message%23vAxDHA.1576@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Hmm - which username/password? I wouldn't think you'd have one as it
doesn't
> sound like you have a POP account with bell south - did you check with
their
> tech support?
>
> JL wrote:
> > Again, I thank you for your help. I set up an Internet Mail SMTP
> > Connector and "checked forward all mail through this connector to the
> > following smart hosts". I put mail.bellsouth.net as the smart host.
> > On the Advanced tabl under Outbound Security I tried with the
> > following:
> >
> > 1 - Anonymous Access
> >
> > 2 - Basic Authentication
> > A - no username and no password
> > B - all permutations of my username and the correct password
> >
> > Neither Option 1, 2A, or 2B worked.
> >
> > Jeryl
> >
> >
> >
> > "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> > wrote in
> > message %2324zwDHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> What did you ask them? The appropriate questions as I see them:
> >>
> >> 1. What is the FQDN of the SMTP server I can use?
> >> 2. Does it require that I authenticate to it in order to use it for
> >> outbound mail?
> >>
> >> If the answer to #2 is yes, you can't use it. And yes, you should
> >> post your settings here.
> >>
> >> JL wrote:
> >>> I spoke with Bellsouth and have escalated it two levels and all they
> >>> can tell me is to call Microsoft. If they have such a server I have
> >>> not been able to get it out of them.
> >>>
> >>> Could I be configuring the Smarthost incorrectly? I will post the
> >>> information later this evening.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> >>> wrote in
> >>> message news:#$6OHxywDHA.1740@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >>>> Exchange can't check for POP first - it's a mail server, not a mail
> >>>> client. Call BellSouth and see if they have an SMTP server you can
> >>>> use that doesn't require this, or require SMTP authentication.
> >>>>
> >>>> JL wrote:
> >>>>> Using Exchage 2003, with static IP on DSL behind Linksys router
> >>>>> with port 25 forwarded to that machine (Win2003 fully patched
> >>>>> withExchange 2003).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am trying to use the Smart Host to send mail thru either Verio
> >>>>> or Bellsouth.Net.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I use Verio for web hosting and have a mailserver name: xxx.com,
> >>>>> username: uname, and a password: pwd (All names/password are for
> >>>>> example only). Verio uses the "Pop Before SMTP" protocol so they
> >>>>> are rejecting my connection with "The remote SMTP service rejected
> >>>>> AUTH negotiation". Verio tech support said that I have to set it
> >>>>> up so that it checks the Pop server first, this opens the SMTP
> >>>>> port. They said that other people were doing it successfully but
> >>>>> that they had no idea how, or they would not tell me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I use BellSouth for DSL connection with a static ip and I also
> >>>>> tried their mail server with the same result. I am assuming that
> >>>>> they have the same "Pop Before SMTP" protocol in place.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why do I want it set up this way. I have another domain: xxx.net
> >>>>> which is pointed to my static ip. I set Exchange up last week and
> >>>>> it was successfully sending and receiving. I then got some
> >>>>> rejections from RR (Road Runner) and AOL that my account was
> >>>>> blocked with the following mesage (I blocked out the ip address
> >>>>> with ??.??.??.?? and disguised the domain):
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> >> -
> >>>> --
> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------
> >>>>> The message cannot be delivered due to a configuration error on
> >>>>> the server. Please contact your Administrator.
> >>>>> > >>>>> see http://www.mail-abuse.org/dul>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> >> -
> >>>> --
> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> When I went to www.mail-abuse.org/dul it said that Bellsouth
> >>>>> listed a entire range of ip addresses as dial-up and that many
> >>>>> isp's were rejecting e-mail from servers on dial-up addresses.
> >>>>> Of course I have a static dsl, not dialup, but they will not
> >>>>> address the issue. They said to relay the mail thru a smart host
> >>>>> at my isp. That is why I am trying to use either the SMTP server
> >>>>> at my web site at Verio, or the SMTP server at my ISP,
> >>>>> Bellsouth.Net.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Can anyone suggest how to get around the problem.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>> Jeryl
>
>

Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 191

Did you check with Bell South support to confirm your setup?

Can you set up OE or something as a POP client and send out using that SMTP
server and using that name/password?

JL wrote:
> I used the only username/password I have. It is the same combination
> that I use in Outlook and the same ones that I use in the Linksys
> router.
>
>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> wrote in
> message %23vAxDHA.1576@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> Hmm - which username/password? I wouldn't think you'd have one as it
>> doesn't sound like you have a POP account with bell south - did you
>> check with their tech support?
>>
>> JL wrote:
>>> Again, I thank you for your help. I set up an Internet Mail SMTP
>>> Connector and "checked forward all mail through this connector to
>>> the following smart hosts". I put mail.bellsouth.net as the smart
>>> host. On the Advanced tabl under Outbound Security I tried with the
>>> following:
>>>
>>> 1 - Anonymous Access
>>>
>>> 2 - Basic Authentication
>>> A - no username and no password
>>> B - all permutations of my username and the correct password
>>>
>>> Neither Option 1, 2A, or 2B worked.
>>>
>>> Jeryl
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>> wrote in
>>> message %2324zwDHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>> What did you ask them? The appropriate questions as I see them:
>>>>
>>>> 1. What is the FQDN of the SMTP server I can use?
>>>> 2. Does it require that I authenticate to it in order to use it for
>>>> outbound mail?
>>>>
>>>> If the answer to #2 is yes, you can't use it. And yes, you should
>>>> post your settings here.
>>>>
>>>> JL wrote:
>>>>> I spoke with Bellsouth and have escalated it two levels and all
>>>>> they can tell me is to call Microsoft. If they have such a
>>>>> server I have not been able to get it out of them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could I be configuring the Smarthost incorrectly? I will post the
>>>>> information later this evening.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>>>> wrote
>>>>> in message news:#$6OHxywDHA.1740@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Exchange can't check for POP first - it's a mail server, not a
>>>>>> mail client. Call BellSouth and see if they have an SMTP server
>>>>>> you can use that doesn't require this, or require SMTP
>>>>>> authentication.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JL wrote:
>>>>>>> Using Exchage 2003, with static IP on DSL behind Linksys router
>>>>>>> with port 25 forwarded to that machine (Win2003 fully patched
>>>>>>> withExchange 2003).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am trying to use the Smart Host to send mail thru either Verio
>>>>>>> or Bellsouth.Net.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I use Verio for web hosting and have a mailserver name: xxx.com,
>>>>>>> username: uname, and a password: pwd (All names/password are for
>>>>>>> example only). Verio uses the "Pop Before SMTP" protocol so
>>>>>>> they are rejecting my connection with "The remote SMTP service
>>>>>>> rejected AUTH negotiation". Verio tech support said that I
>>>>>>> have to set it up so that it checks the Pop server first, this
>>>>>>> opens the SMTP port. They said that other people were doing it
>>>>>>> successfully but that they had no idea how, or they would not
>>>>>>> tell me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I use BellSouth for DSL connection with a static ip and I also
>>>>>>> tried their mail server with the same result. I am assuming
>>>>>>> that they have the same "Pop Before SMTP" protocol in place.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why do I want it set up this way. I have another domain:
>>>>>>> xxx.net which is pointed to my static ip. I set Exchange up
>>>>>>> last week and it was successfully sending and receiving. I
>>>>>>> then got some rejections from RR (Road Runner) and AOL that my
>>>>>>> account was blocked with the following mesage (I blocked out
>>>>>>> the ip address with ??.??.??.?? and disguised the domain):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
>>>> - -
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> The message cannot be delivered due to a configuration error on
>>>>>>> the server. Please contact your Administrator.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> see http://www.mail-abuse.org/dul>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
>>>> - -
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I went to www.mail-abuse.org/dul it said that Bellsouth
>>>>>>> listed a entire range of ip addresses as dial-up and that many
>>>>>>> isp's were rejecting e-mail from servers on dial-up addresses.
>>>>>>> Of course I have a static dsl, not dialup, but they will not
>>>>>>> address the issue. They said to relay the mail thru a smart host
>>>>>>> at my isp. That is why I am trying to use either the SMTP
>>>>>>> server at my web site at Verio, or the SMTP server at my ISP,
>>>>>>> Bellsouth.Net.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can anyone suggest how to get around the problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Jeryl

JL · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

Yes I can send out and receive E-Mail using that mail server with the
username and password.

Lanwench - Thanks for your help. I am leaving on vacation and will be back
in 10 days and will contact Bellsouth again. I did contact them about
listing my IP on the DUL but they will not change the listing.

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
wrote in message
news:%23VKd2xFxDHA.2456@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Did you check with Bell South support to confirm your setup?
>
> Can you set up OE or something as a POP client and send out using that
SMTP
> server and using that name/password?
>
> JL wrote:
> > I used the only username/password I have. It is the same combination
> > that I use in Outlook and the same ones that I use in the Linksys
> > router.
> >
> >
> > "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> > wrote in
> > message %23vAxDHA.1576@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> >> Hmm - which username/password? I wouldn't think you'd have one as it
> >> doesn't sound like you have a POP account with bell south - did you
> >> check with their tech support?
> >>
> >> JL wrote:
> >>> Again, I thank you for your help. I set up an Internet Mail SMTP
> >>> Connector and "checked forward all mail through this connector to
> >>> the following smart hosts". I put mail.bellsouth.net as the smart
> >>> host. On the Advanced tabl under Outbound Security I tried with the
> >>> following:
> >>>
> >>> 1 - Anonymous Access
> >>>
> >>> 2 - Basic Authentication
> >>> A - no username and no password
> >>> B - all permutations of my username and the correct password
> >>>
> >>> Neither Option 1, 2A, or 2B worked.
> >>>
> >>> Jeryl
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> >>> wrote in
> >>> message %2324zwDHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >>>> What did you ask them? The appropriate questions as I see them:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. What is the FQDN of the SMTP server I can use?
> >>>> 2. Does it require that I authenticate to it in order to use it for
> >>>> outbound mail?
> >>>>
> >>>> If the answer to #2 is yes, you can't use it. And yes, you should
> >>>> post your settings here.
> >>>>
> >>>> JL wrote:
> >>>>> I spoke with Bellsouth and have escalated it two levels and all
> >>>>> they can tell me is to call Microsoft. If they have such a
> >>>>> server I have not been able to get it out of them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Could I be configuring the Smarthost incorrectly? I will post the
> >>>>> information later this evening.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> >>>>> wrote
> >>>>> in message news:#$6OHxywDHA.1740@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>> Exchange can't check for POP first - it's a mail server, not a
> >>>>>> mail client. Call BellSouth and see if they have an SMTP server
> >>>>>> you can use that doesn't require this, or require SMTP
> >>>>>> authentication.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> JL wrote:
> >>>>>>> Using Exchage 2003, with static IP on DSL behind Linksys router
> >>>>>>> with port 25 forwarded to that machine (Win2003 fully patched
> >>>>>>> withExchange 2003).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I am trying to use the Smart Host to send mail thru either Verio
> >>>>>>> or Bellsouth.Net.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I use Verio for web hosting and have a mailserver name: xxx.com,
> >>>>>>> username: uname, and a password: pwd (All names/password are for
> >>>>>>> example only). Verio uses the "Pop Before SMTP" protocol so
> >>>>>>> they are rejecting my connection with "The remote SMTP service
> >>>>>>> rejected AUTH negotiation". Verio tech support said that I
> >>>>>>> have to set it up so that it checks the Pop server first, this
> >>>>>>> opens the SMTP port. They said that other people were doing it
> >>>>>>> successfully but that they had no idea how, or they would not
> >>>>>>> tell me.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I use BellSouth for DSL connection with a static ip and I also
> >>>>>>> tried their mail server with the same result. I am assuming
> >>>>>>> that they have the same "Pop Before SMTP" protocol in place.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Why do I want it set up this way. I have another domain:
> >>>>>>> xxx.net which is pointed to my static ip. I set Exchange up
> >>>>>>> last week and it was successfully sending and receiving. I
> >>>>>>> then got some rejections from RR (Road Runner) and AOL that my
> >>>>>>> account was blocked with the following mesage (I blocked out
> >>>>>>> the ip address with ??.??.??.?? and disguised the domain):
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> >>>> - -
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>> The message cannot be delivered due to a configuration error on
> >>>>>>> the server. Please contact your Administrator.
> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> see http://www.mail-abuse.org/dul>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> >>>> - -
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> When I went to www.mail-abuse.org/dul it said that Bellsouth
> >>>>>>> listed a entire range of ip addresses as dial-up and that many
> >>>>>>> isp's were rejecting e-mail from servers on dial-up addresses.
> >>>>>>> Of course I have a static dsl, not dialup, but they will not
> >>>>>>> address the issue. They said to relay the mail thru a smart host
> >>>>>>> at my isp. That is why I am trying to use either the SMTP
> >>>>>>> server at my web site at Verio, or the SMTP server at my ISP,
> >>>>>>> Bellsouth.Net.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Can anyone suggest how to get around the problem.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>> Jeryl
>
>

lanman · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

Hey Guys...

I happen to have the very same problem with the very same
configuration. I have been working with Exchange for too many years and
like to think that I know it pretty well.

Bellsouth does not allow any connections to port 25 from any Mail
server when using a RESIDENTIAL account. They only allow exchange
server to relay if you have a business account.

I have my own eMail provider and I am using them as the outgoing smart
host. Still having problems, as soon as I figure it out will post
solution.

Regards,

Lanman

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Tim Riley · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

Jeryl,

Did you ever find a solution for this? I am having the
exact same issue

thanks!
>-----Original Message-----
>Using Exchage 2003, with static IP on DSL behind Linksys
router with port 25
>forwarded to that machine (Win2003 fully patched
withExchange 2003).
>
>I am trying to use the Smart Host to send mail thru
either Verio or
>Bellsouth.Net.
>
>I use Verio for web hosting and have a mailserver name:
xxx.com, username:
>uname, and a password: pwd (All names/password are for
example only). Verio
>uses the "Pop Before SMTP" protocol so they are rejecting
my connection with
>"The remote SMTP service rejected AUTH negotiation".
Verio tech support
>said that I have to set it up so that it checks the Pop
server first, this
>opens the SMTP port. They said that other people were
doing it successfully
>but that they had no idea how, or they would not tell me.
>
>I use BellSouth for DSL connection with a static ip and I
also tried their
>mail server with the same result. I am assuming that
they have the same
>"Pop Before SMTP" protocol in place.
>
>Why do I want it set up this way. I have another domain:
xxx.net which is
>pointed to my static ip. I set Exchange up last week and
it was
>successfully sending and receiving. I then got some
rejections from RR
>(Road Runner) and AOL that my account was blocked with
the following mesage
>(I blocked out the ip address with ??.??.??.?? and
disguised the domain):
>
>----------------------------------------------------------
------------------
>---------------------------------------------------
>The message cannot be delivered due to a configuration
error on the server.
>Please contact your Administrator.
> rejected, see
>http://www.mail-abuse.org/dul>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------
------------------
>---------------------------------------------------
>
>When I went to www.mail-abuse.org/dul it said that
Bellsouth listed a entire
>range of ip addresses as dial-up and that many isp's were
rejecting e-mail
>from servers on dial-up addresses. Of course I have a
static dsl, not
>dialup, but they will not address the issue. They said
to relay the mail
>thru a smart host at my isp. That is why I am trying to
use either the SMTP
>server at my web site at Verio, or the SMTP server at my
ISP, Bellsouth.Net.
>
>Can anyone suggest how to get around the problem.
>
>Thanks
>Jeryl
>
>
>.
>

Peter · Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

When trying to resolve the issue of RoadRunner blocking emails from
BellSouth addresses, it is not required to send through a Smarthost
although that can fix the problem. RoadRunner Identifies these "Dialup"
(yes DSL too) IP addresses via a reverse lookup of your Exchange server's
IP address. This typically results in an answer such as
adsl-xxx-xxx-xxx-xxx.sip.bct.bellsouth.net where the xxx is an octet of
your IP address. Where as RoadRunner was expecting the host your Exchange
server specified with its helo command e.g. exchange.yourdomain.com.

In this situation, you need to get the pointer(PTR) record changed so that
your IP address resolves to the same hostname that your exchange server is
using in its helo command. For Bellsouth business accounts this is done by
you through a web portal at BellSouth that allows you to configure your DNS
records. For non-business accounts, those that get dynamic IP addresses,
you will need to upgrade to a business account, use a Smarthost that will
relay mail for you or get a different service provider.

Once the PTR record is correct RoadRunner will start accepting mail from
your domain directly without the need of a Smarthost.

Tim Riley wrote:

> Jeryl,
>
> Did you ever find a solution for this? I am having the
> exact same issue
>
> thanks!
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Using Exchage 2003, with static IP on DSL behind Linksys
> router with port 25
>>forwarded to that machine (Win2003 fully patched
> withExchange 2003).
>>
>>I am trying to use the Smart Host to send mail thru
> either Verio or
>>Bellsouth.Net.
>>
>>I use Verio for web hosting and have a mailserver name:
> xxx.com, username:
>>uname, and a password: pwd (All names/password are for
> example only). Verio
>>uses the "Pop Before SMTP" protocol so they are rejecting
> my connection with
>>"The remote SMTP service rejected AUTH negotiation".
> Verio tech support
>>said that I have to set it up so that it checks the Pop
> server first, this
>>opens the SMTP port. They said that other people were
> doing it successfully
>>but that they had no idea how, or they would not tell me.
>>
>>I use BellSouth for DSL connection with a static ip and I
> also tried their
>>mail server with the same result. I am assuming that
> they have the same
>>"Pop Before SMTP" protocol in place.
>>
>>Why do I want it set up this way. I have another domain:
> xxx.net which is
>>pointed to my static ip. I set Exchange up last week and
> it was
>>successfully sending and receiving. I then got some
> rejections from RR
>>(Road Runner) and AOL that my account was blocked with
> the following mesage
>>(I blocked out the ip address with ??.??.??.?? and
> disguised the domain):
>>
>>----------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------
>>---------------------------------------------------
>>The message cannot be delivered due to a configuration
> error on the server.
>>Please contact your Administrator.
>> > rejected, see
>>http://www.mail-abuse.org/dul>
>>
>>----------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------
>>---------------------------------------------------
>>
>>When I went to www.mail-abuse.org/dul it said that
> Bellsouth listed a entire
>>range of ip addresses as dial-up and that many isp's were
> rejecting e-mail
>>from servers on dial-up addresses. Of course I have a
> static dsl, not
>>dialup, but they will not address the issue. They said
> to relay the mail
>>thru a smart host at my isp. That is why I am trying to
> use either the SMTP
>>server at my web site at Verio, or the SMTP server at my
> ISP, Bellsouth.Net.
>>
>>Can anyone suggest how to get around the problem.
>>
>>Thanks
>>Jeryl
>>
>>
>>.
>>

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