AV for Exchange

Nick · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 3

Hello,

I'm looking to buy an AV for exchage in our office. I've
heard about 2 products TrendMicro- Scanmail and Sybari-
Antigen.

I just wanted to find out from the people who are using
them and how they feel about product and would they
recommend them. Is there a down side or a plus from each
product.

any input is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Nick

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William Lefkovics [MVP] · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

I think those are the 2 most recommended products for Exchange.
They both have basic anti-spam measures as well.

William

"Nick" wrote in message$ebd06580$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>
> I'm looking to buy an AV for exchage in our office. I've
> heard about 2 products TrendMicro- Scanmail and Sybari-
> Antigen.
>
> I just wanted to find out from the people who are using
> them and how they feel about product and would they
> recommend them. Is there a down side or a plus from each
> product.
>
> any input is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nick

Martin Blackstone [MVP - · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 10

Your current choices are the two best. I would buy either.

--
Martin Blackstone
MVP - Exchange

http://www.swinc.com/resource/exchange.htm

http://www.swinc.com/resource/e2kfaq_appxc.htm
"Nick" wrote in message$ebd06580$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>
> I'm looking to buy an AV for exchage in our office. I've
> heard about 2 products TrendMicro- Scanmail and Sybari-
> Antigen.
>
> I just wanted to find out from the people who are using
> them and how they feel about product and would they
> recommend them. Is there a down side or a plus from each
> product.
>
> any input is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nick

Nick · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 3

Does the software scan only the email or does it actually
scan the server for virus as well?

Right now I have Symantec AV installed on our server. Do I
have to uninstall the symantec first or can I just leave
it as it is and just install Antigen/TrendMail.

Thanks,

Nick

>-----Original Message-----
>We are using MCAFee groupshield for exchange, quite good,
easy to install
>and configure.
>Frank
>
>"Nick" wrote in message
>$ebd06580$a501280a@phx.gbl...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm looking to buy an AV for exchage in our office. I've
>> heard about 2 products TrendMicro- Scanmail and Sybari-
>> Antigen.
>>
>> I just wanted to find out from the people who are using
>> them and how they feel about product and would they
>> recommend them. Is there a down side or a plus from each
>> product.
>>
>> any input is greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Nick
>
>
>.
>

Nick · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 3

Does the software scan only the email or does it actually
scan the server for virus as well?

Right now I have Symantec AV installed on our server. Do I
have to uninstall the symantec first or can I just leave
it as it is and just install Antigen/TrendMail.

Thanks,

Nick

>-----Original Message-----
>Your current choices are the two best. I would buy either.
>
>--
>Martin Blackstone
>MVP - Exchange
>
>http://www.swinc.com/resource/exchange.htm
>
>
>http://www.swinc.com/resource/e2kfaq_appxc.htm
>"Nick" wrote in message
>$ebd06580$a501280a@phx.gbl...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm looking to buy an AV for exchage in our office. I've
>> heard about 2 products TrendMicro- Scanmail and Sybari-
>> Antigen.
>>
>> I just wanted to find out from the people who are using
>> them and how they feel about product and would they
>> recommend them. Is there a down side or a plus from each
>> product.
>>
>> any input is greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Nick
>
>
>.
>

Martin Blackstone [MVP - · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 10

I am a firm believer in you get what you pay for. 99% effective isn't good
enough with AV, so I am willing to spend the extra money.

--
Martin Blackstone
MVP - Exchange

http://www.swinc.com/resource/exchange.htm

http://www.swinc.com/resource/e2kfaq_appxc.htm
"Jim Bronson" wrote in message$hVgzaDHA.300@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>
> "Martin Blackstone [MVP - Exchange]" wrote in
> message news:%23OVEMNyaDHA.2404@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Your current choices are the two best. I would buy either.
> >
> > --
> > Martin Blackstone
> > MVP - Exchange
>
> I must respectfully dissent. Though Trend may the best for Exchange, it
is
> vastly overpriced. For our environment, swtiching to Trend would have
cost
> us TWICE as much. So, we stuck with McAfee. We do get
> governmental/educational discounts so maybe Trend was not as willing to
play
> ball on those, who knows. At any rate, we are talking 18K vs 36K of your
> tax dollars, if you want an idea of the numbers involved.
>
> Jim
> Austin, TX
>
>

Jim Bronson · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

"Martin Blackstone [MVP - Exchange]" wrote in
message news:%23OVEMNyaDHA.2404@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Your current choices are the two best. I would buy either.
>
> --
> Martin Blackstone
> MVP - Exchange

I must respectfully dissent. Though Trend may the best for Exchange, it is
vastly overpriced. For our environment, swtiching to Trend would have cost
us TWICE as much. So, we stuck with McAfee. We do get
governmental/educational discounts so maybe Trend was not as willing to play
ball on those, who knows. At any rate, we are talking 18K vs 36K of your
tax dollars, if you want an idea of the numbers involved.

Jim
Austin, TX

Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 191

You will note that most of the antivirus software complaints in here are for
McAfee, CA, Symantec. You rarely see any problems related to Sybari or
Trend.

Trend ScanMail is AV for Exchange only - they also make ServerProtect for
the file system, and OfficeScan for centralized AV for workstations. You can
buy a 'bundled' product, NeatSuite, which is a good bargain. It's what I use
and have never had a problem with it (nor a virus; knock wood).

You really want to uninstall whatever antivirus you have installed already,
before installing anything new.

Nick wrote:
> Does the software scan only the email or does it actually
> scan the server for virus as well?
>
> Right now I have Symantec AV installed on our server. Do I
> have to uninstall the symantec first or can I just leave
> it as it is and just install Antigen/TrendMail.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nick
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> We are using MCAFee groupshield for exchange, quite good, easy to
>> install and configure.
>> Frank
>>
>> "Nick" wrote in message
>> $ebd06580$a501280a@phx.gbl...
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm looking to buy an AV for exchage in our office. I've
>>> heard about 2 products TrendMicro- Scanmail and Sybari-
>>> Antigen.
>>>
>>> I just wanted to find out from the people who are using
>>> them and how they feel about product and would they
>>> recommend them. Is there a down side or a plus from each
>>> product.
>>>
>>> any input is greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Nick
>>
>>
>> .

Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 191

See my reply to this above.

Nick wrote:
> Does the software scan only the email or does it actually
> scan the server for virus as well?
>
> Right now I have Symantec AV installed on our server. Do I
> have to uninstall the symantec first or can I just leave
> it as it is and just install Antigen/TrendMail.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nick
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Your current choices are the two best. I would buy either.
>>
>> --
>> Martin Blackstone
>> MVP - Exchange
>>
>> http://www.swinc.com/resource/exchange.htm
>>
>>
>> http://www.swinc.com/resource/e2kfaq_appxc.htm
>> "Nick" wrote in message
>> $ebd06580$a501280a@phx.gbl...
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm looking to buy an AV for exchage in our office. I've
>>> heard about 2 products TrendMicro- Scanmail and Sybari-
>>> Antigen.
>>>
>>> I just wanted to find out from the people who are using
>>> them and how they feel about product and would they
>>> recommend them. Is there a down side or a plus from each
>>> product.
>>>
>>> any input is greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Nick
>>
>>
>> .

Susan VanAllen [MVP] · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

What she said
Seriously though, my "day job" we use exactly that product suite - ScanMail,
ServerProtect, and OfficeScan. Nothing has gotten through.
--
hth,
SusanV

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
wrote in message@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> You will note that most of the antivirus software complaints in here are
for
> McAfee, CA, Symantec. You rarely see any problems related to Sybari or
> Trend.
>
> Trend ScanMail is AV for Exchange only - they also make ServerProtect for
> the file system, and OfficeScan for centralized AV for workstations. You
can
> buy a 'bundled' product, NeatSuite, which is a good bargain. It's what I
use
> and have never had a problem with it (nor a virus; knock wood).
>
> You really want to uninstall whatever antivirus you have installed
already,
> before installing anything new.
>
> Nick wrote:
> > Does the software scan only the email or does it actually
> > scan the server for virus as well?
> >
> > Right now I have Symantec AV installed on our server. Do I
> > have to uninstall the symantec first or can I just leave
> > it as it is and just install Antigen/TrendMail.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Nick
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> We are using MCAFee groupshield for exchange, quite good, easy to
> >> install and configure.
> >> Frank
> >>
> >> "Nick" wrote in message
> >> $ebd06580$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> I'm looking to buy an AV for exchage in our office. I've
> >>> heard about 2 products TrendMicro- Scanmail and Sybari-
> >>> Antigen.
> >>>
> >>> I just wanted to find out from the people who are using
> >>> them and how they feel about product and would they
> >>> recommend them. Is there a down side or a plus from each
> >>> product.
> >>>
> >>> any input is greatly appreciated.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Nick
> >>
> >>
> >> .
>
>

Susan VanAllen [MVP] · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

If you are ONLY going to add ScanMail, you should be fine - I assume you are
not currently scanning the exchsrvr directories with file level antivirus -
this can cause major problems with Exchange. If you go with a new product
suite which includes file-level scanning, then you should remove your
current product then install the new.
--
hth,
SusanV

"Nick" wrote in message$5b193840$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> Does the software scan only the email or does it actually
> scan the server for virus as well?
>
> Right now I have Symantec AV installed on our server. Do I
> have to uninstall the symantec first or can I just leave
> it as it is and just install Antigen/TrendMail.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nick
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Your current choices are the two best. I would buy either.
> >
> >--
> >Martin Blackstone
> >MVP - Exchange
> >
> >http://www.swinc.com/resource/exchange.htm
> >
> >
> >http://www.swinc.com/resource/e2kfaq_appxc.htm
> >"Nick" wrote in message
> >$ebd06580$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I'm looking to buy an AV for exchage in our office. I've
> >> heard about 2 products TrendMicro- Scanmail and Sybari-
> >> Antigen.
> >>
> >> I just wanted to find out from the people who are using
> >> them and how they feel about product and would they
> >> recommend them. Is there a down side or a plus from each
> >> product.
> >>
> >> any input is greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Nick
> >
> >
> >.
> >

Rich Matheisen [MVP] · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 797

"William Lefkovics [MVP]" wrote:

>I think those are the 2 most recommended products for Exchange.
>They both have basic anti-spam measures as well.

Antigen 7.5's "Anti-Spam" module is an extra-cost item. Sad

--
Rich Matheisen
MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
MS Exchange FAQ at http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm

Rich Matheisen [MVP] · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 797

"Martin Blackstone [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:

>I am a firm believer in you get what you pay for. 99% effective isn't good
>enough with AV, so I am willing to spend the extra money.

Amen, brother!

--
Rich Matheisen
MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
MS Exchange FAQ at http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm

Rich Matheisen [MVP] · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 797

"Nick" wrote:

>Does the software scan only the email or does it actually
>scan the server for virus as well?

Sybari's Antigen is e-mail only.

>Right now I have Symantec AV installed on our server. Do I
>have to uninstall the symantec first or can I just leave
>it as it is and just install Antigen/TrendMail.

That would depend on what you install of Trend's suite. If you stick
with only the e-mail scanning then you can keep the Symantec AV stuff
installed.

--
Rich Matheisen
MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
MS Exchange FAQ at http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm

Rich Matheisen [MVP] · Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 797

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
wrote:

>You will note that most of the antivirus software complaints in here are for
>McAfee, CA, Symantec. You rarely see any problems related to Sybari or
>Trend.

I've got a few. Smile

>Trend ScanMail is AV for Exchange only - they also make ServerProtect for
>the file system, and OfficeScan for centralized AV for workstations. You can
>buy a 'bundled' product, NeatSuite, which is a good bargain. It's what I use
>and have never had a problem with it (nor a virus; knock wood).
>
>You really want to uninstall whatever antivirus you have installed already,
>before installing anything new.

Well, that's true of his file-level AV. I don;t know if he's got
Symantec's e-mail stuff installed (he didn't say).

I'm a believer in not have just one vendor's stuff scanning for virus.
We use Antigen for mail and Symantec for servers and desktops.

Do you know if Trend uses the same AV engines in all their products?
If so, diversifying may be a good idea. What one engine/signature
combination misses the other might catch.

--
Rich Matheisen
MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
MS Exchange FAQ at http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm